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[PROPOSAL] Signaling Proposal ~ HackATOM Seoul 2022

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catdotfishOP
Jun 2022 10

hackatom-seoul-logo5 (1) 797×398 29.6 KB Dear all, After all the excellent feedback I have received in the last few weeks, we finally have the final draft of the governance proposal that will soon be submitted on-chain. There have been changes in form, though not in intent, so I would be grateful if you could take a last look at it. The proposal will be submitted on-chain early next week ( barring unforeseen circumstances ) [FULL TEXT PROPOSAL ~ FORUM VERSION] Proposal Card (2) 1920×1080 63.9 KB Cosmonauts, In collaboration with Interchain, KryptoSeoul is organizing one of the most exciting HackATOMs ever, the first in-person Cosmos Hackathon after 3 years, to celebrate our amazing community and all the incredible achievements of the past years! Before proceeding further, please read the blogpost available in the Cosmos Medium Publication in which we introduce this event and what inspired it. HackAtom has been a key event for attracting high-quality talent and developing partner relationships that benefit the entire Cosmos Community: • [HackAtom Berlin 2019] CosmWasm : multi-project collaboration with developers from Regen Network , TruStory, Althea ,…

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Anonymouse
Jun 2022 2

Great that Asia is getting some from Cosmos! Might actually be able to make it to this event.

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Syed
Jun 2022 2

Hoping Hackatom 2022 will come up with an industry-changing project like previous Hackatoms! All for this prop

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uditvira
Jun 2022 4

Seeing the confusion over the last few proposals, I believe structuring and wording the proposal for simplicity is crucial. I love the FAQ you have at the end; it answers most questions I had. However, I think you need a tight summary at the start saying exactly what this proposal is about.

I’d like to offer a version of this summary in case it helps!

“We are seeking community approval to fund USD $300K worth of prizes at the 2022 HackATOM taking place in late July in Seoul, Korea. HackATOMs are a key event for attracting high-quality talent and developing partner relationships that benefit the entire Cosmos community. While this signaling proposal secures our prize budget prior to the event, we will be following up with a final community spend proposal only after the event so funds can be withdrawn at the going ATOM/USD conversion rate at that time. Given market volatility in token prices, we believe delaying the community spend proposal to after the event is the best way to ensure fairness for the community and the HackATOM competitors.“

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andreas_k
Jun 2022 1

It is certain that your summary helps to understand, thanks!!.. However the long signling post is absolutely necessary because it includes in every detail all the information required.

My assessment is that this is an excellent proposal about a great event that, in addition to being the best advertisement, also contributes to the empowerment of the community.

Looking forward for prep infos… :slightly_smiling_face:

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Noam
Jun 2022 2

Thanks for the write up @uditvira , agree that the proposal could do with a strong summary.

Just FYI everyone, we’re currently discussing with the multisig holders whether we can just create one community spend proposal straight away, and then swap to USDC on Osmosis right after, instead of needing two proposals as drafted right now. This would make the process a lot easier imo.

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catdotfish
Jul 2022 1

Continuing the discussion from [PROPOSAL] Signaling Proposal ~ HackATOM Seoul 2022 : Dear all, After all the excellent feedback I have received in the last few weeks, we finally have the final draft of the governance proposal that will soon be submitted on-chain. There have been changes in form, though not in intent, so I would be grateful if you could take a last look at it. The proposal will be submitted on-chain early next week ( barring unforeseen circumstances ) [FULL TEXT PROPOSAL ~ FORUM VERSION] Proposal Card (2) 1920×1080 63.9 KB Cosmonauts, In collaboration with Interchain, KryptoSeoul is organizing one of the most exciting HackATOMs ever, the first in-person Cosmos Hackathon after 3 years, to celebrate our amazing community and all the incredible achievements of the past years! Before proceeding further, please read the blogpost available in the Cosmos Medium Publication in which we introduce this event and what inspired it. HackAtom has been a key event for attracting high-quality talent and developing partner relationships that benefit the entire Cosmos Community: • [HackAtom Berlin 2019] CosmWasm : multi-project collaboration with developers…

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andreas_k
Jul 2022 3

This is an excellent prop about a great event for our community, BUT…
In a period of extented volatility, a pre-defined number of ATOMs as a total prize would be probably a much better idea. In my point of view, the total prize must be in ATOM (like prop 72 for example).

Why should the ATOM-USD ratio be so important as to exists xxx in this great prop?
Why the winners should be paid in USD?

This is the only point I disagree with…
In this way we act as if we don’t believe in ATOM.

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catdotfish
Jul 2022 2

Thank you very much for your feedback!
I think it is only fair to clarify this point before submitting the proposal on-chain since you have moved since it is extremely important:
We all firmly believe in ATOM, and we wish those who want to join this ecosystem to do so as well, which is why we didn’t submit the proposal in USDC or other stable coins. At the same time, I think it was just as right to give people a fiat counterpart (it could have been euro or Korean won as well, we used dollars to make it more digestible and immediate for everyone without having to use coingeko).
The goal of the proposal is to be as clear and transparent as possible so that Cosmonauts can cast their vote without having to invest hours in researching additional content (as many times happens). I’m sorry that this came across to you as not believing in ATOM.

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andreas_k
Jul 2022 3

Thank you for your feedback and for your quick response!
I can see what you mean, however allow me to still disagree with it.
All of us here strongly believe in ATOM, its potential, its vision and its future value.
This is certain and there is no doubt…

That’s exactly why I can’t find any reason for the USD prize.
In my eyes, in this way we recognize ATOMs value only in ratio with USD or any other FIAT currency and finally, as we discuss for a community spend, I think that a pre-defined number of ATOMs would be preferable and more fair for the community than an xxx amount.

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catdotfish
Jul 2022 4

After having reviewed once more your concerns, the proposal will be revised to address your points and reflect a pre-defined number of ATOMs :3 will be shared as soon as ready!

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