[Withdrawn/Resolved] Cosmos Hub Constitution (CHC) DAO

Cosmos Hub Community: ATOM’s already great, it’s just swimming in the slumps. As an independent, been an advocate for the Atom One vision for a few years and despite 2.0 seemingly having taken over the Cosmos Hub, with all due respect, humbly seeking to see if we could collectively form a team. Fail or proceed, would greatly appreciate your constructive/critical feedback. Thank you CHC Foundation DAO A. MISSION/PURPOSE: Help maintain and secure 2/3 staked. With a Cosmos Hub Constitution (CHC) Foundation DAO, in collaboration with the Cosmos Hub community, the aim is to champion three (out of the five) core values of the Hub: • Decentralization • Security • Simplicity CHC DAO will seek to restore, at the very least maintain, the original vision for the Cosmos Hub. Within the current climate of Cosmos Hub, forming the CHC DAO could alleviate some of the burden on public governance and make way for other, more (understandably so) self-serving committees. With this proposal, the aim is to form a team drawn from within the Cosmos Hub community, to design/modify the program and actively run it, as opposed to simply delegating the work to a third-party service provider…

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Unfortunately, that will be a straightforward no from us. You propose to establish an entirely new organization rather than working to improve the existing one. While differing opinions and viewpoints on certain subjects are natural, at Govmos, we will always prioritize debate, collaboration, and consensus over secession and the creation of duplicate forks. The motivation behind creating this DAO appears to be driven by political views and an attempt to use community funds to further those political aims. We cannot, and will not, support such a use of community funds. We already have a grant DAO, and we will oppose any attempt to create a second one as long as the current one is active and fulfilling its duties. While some individuals may have issues with the @ATOMAcceleratorDAO and publicly criticize it, we have seen nothing but baseless claims and wild theories so far.

Thanks so much for your time and valuable feedback @Govmos

Govmos:

The motivation behind creating this DAO appears to be driven by political views and an attempt to use community funds to further those political aims.

Was expecting pushback and find your response completely understandable. This was simply a temperature check and again, a means to collaborate with the broader community to form a grassroots team.

Understanding the current situation of how things SEEM to be creeping towards centralization, furthering 2.0’s agenda, this DAO would be an attempt to help champion the opposite, while coexisting in harmony.

Lets take out the grant portion!

Operations are meant to be minimal, help secure 2/3 by staking and REstaking (no selling/dumping) the dedicated stake. Any other concerns regarding this prop idea, i’m all ears, really

I understand Govmos was conceived through AADAO, so the defensive stance is warranted. Through time, AADAO undeniably continues to show improvement and I can only but salute their team, especially with the newest member on board (..really though - truly thankful for her contributions thus far as the newest addition ).

BLKSH33P:

SEEM to be creeping towards centralization, furthering 2.0’s agenda, this DAO would be an attempt to help champion the opposite, while coexisting in harmony.

So you want the Hub to foot the bill on setting up an opposition party to create more obstruction and division for a minority political party? Isn’t that the whole point of Atom One anyway? A fork that aims to “guide the Hub back toward first principles” or something?

AiB has fat bags of Atom. Surely they’d provide funding for this type of thing, if it’s deemed worthwhile.

Ty @tknox35 for taking time to look into this prop idea

Specifically here for ATOM’s growth and security bc truer decentralization doesn’t seem to be happening, at least not yet. Yeah I think thats a big part of what ATOM One aims for, but im here discussing concerns for the former.

Lets stray from politics. Regardless if your a One or 2.0 advocate, the fact is theres a lot of selling/dumping vs. staking.

Imagine having a dedicated DAO solely aiming to stabilize security through minimal action via stake n’ restake. As time goes on, like the AADAO, it could prove itself to expand into/revisit, say the grants & marketing/reporting side - but those are secondary issues. The sole mission/the priority for this prop idea is to help ensure 2/3 stake is reached and maintained, this way other more self-aligned committees can continue developing from their end. Win/win, no?

We can coexist.

Thank you for the positive feedback on your post. We believe your vision for a grant DAO aligns much more closely with AtomOne’s vision. We are also prime contributors to this ecosystem, having supported the constitution framework while participating in multiple working groups. We actually embrace both the Hub’s and AtomOne’s vision. Both have their own brilliance as well as areas for critique. We sincerely believe that the fork was a necessary divergence, allowing both visions to flourish independently. Our hope is that, in the future, these two contrasting visions will eventually reunite, combining the best aspects of both worlds.

We think your proposal would be better suited for the AtomOne constitution process, where you could potentially take on a role within the grant DAO that will exist in that ecosystem. A proposition in Cosmos Hub would mostly resemble a double expenditure for uncertain added value.

LESGO! appreciate your continued engagement and feedback @Govmos

Agreed, this could be better suited within AtomOne’s ecosystem, but would like to reemphasize that im here for helping secure ATOM through current sell pressures, regardless of side. Respect can be given despite differences so please understand im not dismissing Govmos teams contributions. Keep thriving! Rooting for our collective growth.

Maybe this DAO, with the potential token transfer dapp I mentioned earlier, could further serve as a bridge for the previously proposed Photon, but thats another story.

Regarding #'s, lets stray from CP for a sec. I see the Aid Proposal for Earthquake Survivors in Türkiye post. What if we can reallocate those funds to test the viability of this DAO idea and for a specific time frame? Prove itself and if it doesn’t work after N time, route the funds directly back into the CP - no questions asked.

After immediate responses:

• Stray from CP. Proposing reallocation of the idle ATOM from Aid Prop
• GRANT portion from this DAO = excluded
• Direct focus → “Dedicated Stake” to help achieve the Mission: Help maintain and secure 2/3

If the Cosmos Hub community deems reallocating the budget from Aid Prop to help form a CHC Foundation DAO:

C 1-5 total (initial post) - 12% Total Budget
• $120,105.59 usd / 25,179 ATOM

Dedicated Stake: - 88% total budget
• $880,774.35 usd / 184,648.64 ATOM

Total Budget:
• $1,000,879.94 usd / 209,828 ATOM

Will anticipate/appreciate continued feedback

No, it sounds like you just want the money.

Listen here you sexy Tiger, I salute your vigorous spirit in defending our CP, we need more people like you and I appreciate the constructive feedback. Jokes aside, thank you for joining this thread .

Undeniably, that is exactly what this DAO prop is asking for, funding (“money”). The why, however? Despite being a minority voice, to further decentralize a centralizing Cosmos Hub community and help steward ATOM for a dedicated stake.

To reemphasize the DAO’s mission: Help maintain and secure 2/3.

I don’t believe this is an unreasonable ask, especially to prove itself out. Noting the original prop here was modeled after AADAO, who continues to win my respect over time, if DAO’s like them can start their journey by granting “money” to ridiculous props like “Cosmos Millions,” the formation of this DAO is not farfetched, imo. This prop has been edited to stray from the CP and now proposing reallocating idle ATOM.

If only we started off with a foundational constitution to avoid politicizing and fostering unconstructive conversations, but that’s another story!