[PROPOSAL ##](DRAFT] Fund for community development with the Cosmos Ecosystems Zealy program

Fund for community development with the Cosmos Ecosystems Zealy program This is a proposal for funding and rewarding for participants Cosmos Ecosystem Zealy program - Zealy - Join the movement In January 2023, the Cosmos Ecosystem team, with the Posthuman Validator support, launched the Cosmos Ecosystem program to develop the Ecosystem Community. As Cosmos Ecosystem Enthusiasts we want to make everything that we could do to attract people to the Cosmos Ecosystem and related projects! Over the course of the year the program has been running, we and Cosmos Ecosystem community have achieved tremendous results: • сurrently, 3600 participants have joined the program, rank throughout the year in Zealy’s Top 100 projects (78 at this time) • the program offers participants easy and simple quests to study the Cosmos Ecosystem, onboarding and start quests, with the help of which the Cosmonaut receives his first tools for working with the Ecosystem, gets acquainted with and joins the communities (thanks to the program, more than 3000 thousand Keplr, Cosmostation and Leap Wallets installations) • the education and staking section, which introduces the Cosmonaut more deeply to…

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Great initiative but I wonder why the hub should pay for it.

Reward should come from the project that was presented (promoted) / validators / wallets / etc…

Hello! Some projects that joined the program were able to reward participants, but not everyone had such an opportunity. However, the program also develops Cosmos itself, trains users to work in Cosmos:

• the program offers participants easy and simple quests to study the Cosmos Ecosystem, onboarding and start quests, with the help of which the Cosmonaut receives his first tools for working with the Ecosystem, gets acquainted with and joins the communities (thanks to the program, more than 3000 thousand Keplr, Cosmostation and Leap Wallets installations)
• the education and staking section, which introduces the Cosmonaut more deeply to working in Cosmos, review of documentation, quizes, DEX introduction, first ATOM stake quest for any validator (more than 200 new stakers)

I will vote a YES to support this proposal. Having worked with the Cosmos Ecosystem team for some of my projects, I’ve seen firsthand their dedication and efforts.
Their contributors like Ekaterina and Asa are approachable and have been instrumental in raising awareness about the Cosmos ecosystem.
The program’s success, with over 3600 participants, speaks volumes. Let’s keep this positive trend going into 2024

Of course it would be great, if other projects will support, but also, all this projects bring to Cosmos Hub a lot of value!
Moreover, several projects were giving some funds for prizes to participants!

We are strong as Cosmos Ecosystem, and Cosmos value directly depends of whole Cosmos Ecosystem

Also, if Cosmos Hub will support community development, then it will be good example for other projects from Cosmos Ecosystem to support community development

We think that Community is the same important as tech side, and this initiative is really successful for community development!

I’ve been in the Cosmos Ecosystem Zealy program for quite a while now. I’ve enjoyed it and learned a lot in the process. I like the idea of a fund for community development with Cosmos Ecosystem Zealy program.

Reasons to oppose this proposal. • There is significant concern that Zealy is known for having numerous bot accounts. These bots often spam community channels with generic phrases like ‘good project’, ‘very good project’, and ‘GM’ without genuinely engaging with the community or contributing meaningful dialogue. Just look at the cosmos ecosystem zealy discord server , where 95% of messages over the past few months is made up of “gm spam” with a few small conversations here and there with little to no relation to the ecosystem? • Further spam was sent to this forum, which you can view and read about here • Under Posthuman’s oversight, there was an incident where one of their community managers promoted a scam within their Discord server. This led to financial losses for many community members, casting a negative light on Cosmos Hub and its associated communities. Supporting a program with such a history could further damage the reputation of the Ecosystem. Source • Allocating a substantial sum of over $40,000 for this program might not be the most efficient use of resources, particularly given the concerns about engagement quality, bad moderation and user safety…

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Hello! • We offered you to openly manage and develop this Zealy together, but you refused. You wrote that you wanted to do it yourself, but apparently in 1.5 years you still haven’t found the time to do it. Regarding the discord server, a separate discord service was created where people can freely do what they like, without your supervision, even write GM, GN. And they can get acquainted with Ecosystem projects. Again, it was created in connection with your refusal to develop your discord server. • There is no spam here - it was a quest, go to the forum and express own opinion (any opinion), then what is this forum for if you can’t express an opinion that you don’t like. By the way, you deleted a lot of messages that you didn’t like. Apparently decentralization really scares you. • Here we also disagree with you, there were no quests from this project where had to complete any missions, there were no calls to purchase something, there was one quest for the mutual exchange of Zealy users. Unfortunately, some projects are closed, especially in such market, we are unable to influence this. And this person began to write rather at your request in order to discredit our work. •…

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Hello. • All of my concerns were ignored, I said the following • “I understand you’ve done a lot for the ecosystem, and I’m not dismissing that fact. I just think if we are to collaborate as a community on crew3, we need to slow down a bit, and discuss it.” • to which the response was: • • “If you want to help us to do better - great! Join us and let’s help to the community to learn more about Cosmos Ecosystem! If you don’t want to do something, and just want to speak about something - sorry, but we are really busy in doing something. We prefer to develop and contribute, not to speak about it.” • • Antropocosmist Decided that careful planning, and execution was irrelevant, and decided the only approach was to go full steam ahead while ignoring all of my concerns. • After this forum was flooded with spam, spam started flooding the Cosmos Network discord server, I asked you to remove the link, and you did. Thank you for taking the bots away from us. • Ultimately after witnessing how much spam crew3/zealy created, and after seeing osmosis abandon it, I decided it wasn’t worth pursuing anymore. • No spam, no bots? Explain this • Also, I…

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Of course, thanks for your opinion. A lot of work has really been done, as you rightly noted. We don’t want to quarrel with anyone, just as I wrote to you before, we wanted to do this together with you. Validator Posthuman supported and helped us, but Cosmos Ecosystem != Posthuman, then more validators and projects joined the program. Of course, among the participants there are those who are trying to create multi-accounts, and this is visible, and after a year of work, all this has been eliminated and these people are not included in the top of the platform. Zealy is an excellent tool for working with the community, it is a very good platform, you just need to know how to work with it. Among the disorganized chaos, the platform allows you to find people who are really interested and joined the Cosmos Ecosystem projects and Cosmos. And we are very happy and proud of this! Regarding allocation, I mean that we propose to distribute to those people who really worked for the whole year for results, the community (real people, not bots), to those who accomplished a lot of useful things. Compared to other proposals, we first did, showed the result, and then we discuss and propose…

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I support this initiative but would advise reducing the requested amount.

The effort put into the campaigns launched is admirable, I was introduced to quite a few projects thanks to their campaigns which is something I’m very grateful for. They’re doing a great job pushing the whole ecosystem, so I do believe the Hub should support it.

No. The hub should stay far away from this kind of useless initiative.

Cant say anything about Zealy itself or its benefits. I can vouch for Antropocosmist. I have known the dude for many years and i know that they build for values. In fact if most teams were as focused as these guys, we would be in a great place. Thats all I can say. Dont have anything to add about CP or Zealy.

Thank you, friends, for good words! I also really appreciate all you do for the development of Cosmos Ecosystem!

We just trying to spread more information about Cosmos ecosystem, and add some gamefication into community development!

We think that this is very important to develop not only code, but also community!

We already spend big part of our income for the community development, we did it without any support from community pool, and we will do it, even if we will not get any support from community pool, just with funding from community pool we will do it more effective!

Very good idea!
I think you should always support those who support the project

In January 2023, the Cosmos Ecosystem team, launched the Cosmos Ecosystem program to develop the Ecosystem Community. As Cosmos Ecosystem enthusiasts we want to do everything that we could do to attract people to the Cosmos Ecosystem and related projects! Zealy as a tool is used by many ecosystems and projects, but what is the benefit of the Zealy Cosmos Ecosystem program? • Increased Activity and Participation: The Zealy Program has attracted a significant number of new participants, which contributes to an increase in overall activity in the Cosmos Ecosystem. This creates a more vibrant and engaged community. • Community Expansion: The program has successfully expanded the Cosmos community, attracting thousands of new members, increasing awareness and providing exposure to various projects in the Cosmos Ecosystem. • Education and Engagement of New Users: Sections of the program dedicated to education and staking promote a deeper understanding of the Cosmos Ecosystem for new participants. This not only increases the level of education, but also activates the staking community. • Attracting Contributors: Program participants become active participants in the Cosmos…

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Based on all of the above, the Zealy Cosmos Ecosystem program contributes to the strengthening and development of the Cosmos Hub, promoting its popularization, expanding the community and enriching activity within the Ecosystem.

With the support of the Cosmos Hub and the community, the allocation of funds from the general pool for awards to program participants will encourage the contribution of all those who participated in the support and development of the Cosmos Ecosystem.

We invite everyone to discuss the proposal on the forum https://forum.cosmos.network/t/proposal-draft-fund-for-community-development-with-the-cosmos-ecosystems-zealy-program/

No, I reject the proposal. I believe that projects funded by the Cosmos community treasury should demonstrate clear, tangible benefits to the ecosystem as a whole. In the case of Zealy, the outcomes and impacts of the program are not sufficiently aligned with this objective. My decision is also influenced by the belief that initiatives like Zealy should ideally be self-funded or supported by the protocols that directly benefit from them, rather than relying on the community treasury. This approach ensures that our limited resources are reserved for projects with the most significant and widespread impact on the Cosmos Ecosystem.

I encourage you to consider alternative funding sources, potentially including the treasuries of individual protocols that are directly involved with or benefit from the Zealy program.

How can the integrity of the Cosmos Ecosystem’s Zealy Program be ensured, particularly in the face of the serious allegations about bot activity undermining its legitimacy? A program purporting to bolster community engagement should not be a haven for automated, non-human interactions. It’s imperative to have robust mechanisms in place to verify the authenticity of participants. What concrete steps are being taken to identify and eliminate bot accounts?

Are there transparent, auditable processes to guarantee that the rewards are going to genuine, active community members and not to artificial entities? This isn’t just about maintaining the program’s credibility; it’s about preserving the trust and value of the entire Cosmos Ecosystem. Without stringent measures to combat these issues, the proposal risks being nothing more than a facade, potentially doing more harm than good.

Despite the relatively small amount requested, we have to admit that we saw some elements in the replies that have raised our attention. But the critical point that lead us to decline this proposal is the fact that many of the quests proposed are from projects outside the AEZ. Over the latest quarters, we have made it clear that the Cosmos Hub should now focus its incentive distribution toward that economic zone in priority.

To be clear, we are actually in favor to support the Zealy quests by allocating some ATOM tokens, but we think this project’s support should come from the Interchain Foundation, which role is to spearhead community awareness around the whole ecosystem.

To conclude, we are supporting the idea, but not the proposal, simply due to the fact that we don’t think the Hub’s community pool is not the right place to target for this fundraising, the ICF is instead.
Regarding the amounts requested, and the engagement the quests gathered, I can hardly imagine that the Foundation would refuse a participation. We would also recommend reaching out to individual Cosmos projects to add incentives as well to create a general bucket.

Hope you’ll consider this feedback,

It always seemed to me that Cosmos only benefits from the development of the Cosmos Ecosystem as a whole

Cosmos without the Cosmos Ecosystem is like Ethereum without smart contracts

Look at this: Cosmos: The Internet of Blockchains - this is only one real reason, why the Cosmos have real value

without Ecosystem - Cosmos is useless

Friend, all we do is for Cosmos and Cosmos Ecosystem development

And we don’t ask funds for ourselves, funds will got to the community!

We are doing this program on pure enthusiasm, and we don’t ask for any payment, because we are Cosmos Ecosystem Maximalists

We will ask individual projects too, but what’s about Cosmos?

Why do you think, that individual projects need to support this program, and Cosmos don’t need to support it?

Please reconsider your opinion and look at this program as a collective activity, the goal of which is the development of the community of the Cosmos Ecosystem, where Cosmos itself is one of the most important parts