Proposal Feedback on the Forum

The Notional team ( @vuong177 , @LitBit , @jacobgadikian ) has recently posted their vesting account information on the Cosmos Hub forum . This shows a commitment to public accountability and makes it easy for cosmonauts to follow up about the proposal . Proposals are not finished after they pass. Feedback and execution are more important than voting yes or no because it helps us learn from the past. Proposal 101 and the Importance of Process Decision-makers must learn in order to adapt to the ever-changing needs of a complex system. Part of adaptation involves making use of feedback from past-decisions to more effectively make future decisions. This process is recursive and can be easily improved using already available tooling. So, might we want to create a new forum category for “Proposal Follow-ups”? This can act as a dedicated space for: • proposal retros • proposal feedback and reporting • communication about past proposals Some benefits of this would be: • make it easier to find proposal feedback • reduce time needed to learn about Cosmos Hub governance decisions • increase public accountability for accepted proposals • provide clear…

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hey

I’m super-glad that you noticed our technique, which has two goals:

• make the process reproducible for other teams
• Give the community insight into the exact composition of the multi-sig account

We are also adding support for vesting accounts to our multi-signature transaction tool, located at https://multisig.notional.ventures

Thanks for highlighting this, and if you have any questions or if future proposers want any help with the process, please let us know.

ala.tusz.am:

So, might we want to create a new forum category for “Proposal Follow-ups”? This can act as a dedicated space for:

• proposal retros
• proposal feedback and reporting
• communication about past proposals

Some benefits of this would be:

• make it easier to find proposal feedback
• reduce time needed to learn about Cosmos Hub governance decisions
• increase public accountability for accepted proposals
• provide clear lines of communications between stakeholders and teams that had proposals accepted

YES ! this is exactly what we need! An easy to find, in one place overview of all proposals, communication/feedback about progress of the passed proposals and accountability of spent community funds. This will bring a good amount of transparency and trust in Cosmos. Imo It is a basic need in professionally running the Cosmos hub. I have noticed in earlier posts on this forum and other social media that the request from the community for this is clear.

@ala.tusz.am thank you for this proposal.

I think it depends on how independent the follow-up content is! For essays that spawn from a proposal, such as the ones I wrote after Proposal #63 , they are long enough that the should be stand-alone content. I put them in `Governance Meta` because the proposal itself was focused on the process of governance: • Reflections on Proposal 63: Report and deliverables • Reflections on Proposal 63: Recommendations for ongoing stewardship of Hub governance Other, shorter updates (like the information for the vesting accounts in Proposal #104 ) feel like they would be at home as a reply under the original proposal post. My concern in creating a new category is just that people already have trouble placing proposals under the ‘right’ category (air quotes because hey - I don’t own the forum so my opinions on what’s right are valid but not necessarily objective). People also don’t really use the naming conventions :') so indexing and finding content is getting harder as the forum grows. We would need strong norms or mod support in linking together posts so that someone finding the original proposal could easily access the follow up and feedback, and vice versa. I’ve been…

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@lexa I think you have a good point there. A forum is not a good place for reporting on progress and accountablility of passed props. This forum is for discussing proposals in the making before a prop goes to voting and other discussions. The feedback and info on passed props will be burried under new discussions etc and not easily accessable. I think we need a seperate place where passed proposals are listed and the organisations that are funded and carry them out report on the progress and give account for the spendings.

I therefore propose to create a new sub: something like: “prop-reports.cosmos.network” or something like that.
There all passed props will be listed seperately and the feedback/accountability can be given by the funded organisations. In this way all progress on passed props info can be accessed easily by anyone now and in future and is available for future evaluation use and will not be mixed with other info and ideas like on this forum. This will also make this forum more focussed.

pls give your ideas/feedback on creating a subdomain (somethng like: prop-reports.cosmos.nerwork) for progress reports/feedback/accountability of funds for passed props.

Thanks for this – it’s insightful. After thinking through it, it does seem that the creation of a new category (in and of itself) wouldn’t do much to solve the archival problem and is kind of a low-leverage peripheral solution to a problem that doesn’t exist. Rather, it seems we should be aiming toward lexa: strong norms or mod support in linking together posts so that someone finding the original proposal could easily access the follow up and feedback, and vice versa. It does seem like some kind of agreed upon protocol for moderators or archivists to follow in merging or splitting topics could be useful here, though I know that people do have concerns about their content being “meddled with”. Pookybear: There all passed props will be listed seperately and the feedback/accountability can be given by the funded organisations. In this way all progress on passed props info can be accessed easily by anyone now and in future and is available for future evaluation use and will not be mixed with other info and ideas like on this forum. This will also make this forum more focussed. @Pookybear I have had a similar idea in the past, but while…

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